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发表于 2006-6-10 12:59:15 | 只看该作者 回帖奖励 |倒序浏览 |阅读模式
我的儿子4岁半,3月26日开始禁食,他对25种食物过敏,现在只吃土豆.香菜.黄瓜.绿豆等食物,很单一,2个与瘦了4斤,但我不担心,因为补充维生素与矿物质和氨基酸,自然排毒,调理身体,解决yeast的问题,禁食的最明显的表现是湿疹消失了,以前多动,现在能静下来了,对视力有一点,2个月的自然排毒变化很大,但还有怪动作,两只手攥住嘴里"一一一....地叫.有时无故发笑,有时还转圈,但比以前少了,依旧不会说,但音节比以前多了.他的重金属铅非常非常高,贡也高,但不严重,医生用药3天DMSA/11天OFF,我建议用TP-DMPS,但医生不采纳,说皮肤不会吸收太多,我建议用3天停4天,她说开始用药安全第一.我也没办法.5月5日用DMSA,连续三天,每况8小时把栓剂塞进肛门,现在进入休整期.[em07][em07][em07]
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发表于 2006-6-10 16:17:15 | 只看该作者

re:请问楼主:(每况8小时把栓剂塞进肛门)什...

请问楼主:(每况8小时把栓剂塞进肛门)什麽意思呀?
DMSA不是口服用药吗?
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 楼主| 发表于 2006-6-17 11:58:53 | 只看该作者

re:不好意思,第一次发贴,错误很多,每隔8小...

不好意思,第一次发贴,错误很多,每隔8小时把DMSA栓剂塞入肛门,我用的不是口服的.肛门周围有很多静脉网,比口服的好吸收,我昨天也做了一下重金属中毒实验,用的是口服的DMSA,看看我是不是重金属中毒.我有点偏头痛,隐隐的有点发木.有点怪,这两天我的头不痛了,但决不是思想作用.我可能2星期能拿到测试结果.看结果怎么样.我儿子过敏非常严重,医生说没有看到这么严重的,鸡蛋.所有肉类,米,腰果,香蕉,所有海产品,牛奶.....等到25种过敏,但面不过敏,(可能我们禁面比较早的原因),医生说面也不能吃,还有不过敏的玉米,黄豆也不能吃,3天禁食见成效,疹子消失,第10天他吃了芒果后,小鸡鸡上又出了疹子,马上停芒果,到现在没出过.这两个月他会玩了秋千与平横木,进步很大,以前走路不跟人,现在可以跟着我们走了.排毒用的DMSA很便宜,我儿子一个月才用54加元(6天用量).3ON/11OFF
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发表于 2006-6-17 12:28:36 | 只看该作者

re:请问楼主:您也是去香港看的医生吗?(排毒...

请问楼主:您也是去香港看的医生吗?(排毒用的DMSA很便宜,我儿子一个月才用54加元(6天用量).3ON/11OFF)用的药价格很公道,能介绍一下经验吗?我也想给孩子排毒,不知该怎么进行。
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 楼主| 发表于 2006-6-18 06:00:54 | 只看该作者

re:我在加拿大,我的DAN医生是在加拿大.他...

我在加拿大,我的DAN医生是在加拿大.他是药剂师,也是药店的老板,与他合作的有一位医生,,我第一次见他,付了100加元咨询费,后来没有交任何咨询费.检测费第一次验血与尿800加元,检测90种食物过敏与氨基酸与脂肪酸代谢,测出我儿子.YEAST的问题很严重.他给我们开的是,制霉菌素(抗生素)2周,TAKIRKMAN的SUPER NU-THERA复合维生素与矿物质,活菌,P5P与镁的合剂,EPA/NHA,氨基酸.药物排毒前测试付200元,(服DMSA后收集尿).
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 楼主| 发表于 2006-6-18 06:24:13 | 只看该作者

re:我觉得诊断是非常重要的,检测要送到美国,...

我觉得诊断是非常重要的,检测要送到美国,这一步不容易,如果知道结果原因很容易的,如有YEAST的问题,禁食物很重要,药物排毒前一定要做肝功能与肾功能的检测,国内可以做,国内有职业病的医院,如果汞与铅中毒用的药是一样的,我想国内更方便与便宜,只是辅助营养药不能含自闭症小孩过敏的东西,国内没有.
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 楼主| 发表于 2006-6-22 12:43:07 | 只看该作者

re:悦林进行第二轮排毒,有二次失误,白天药塞...

悦林进行第二轮排毒,有二次失误,白天药塞到肛门里不到半小时他就去厕所把药拉出来,医生给我的药的用量没有多余的.明天我给他塞完药,便带他出去玩,他就不会去厕所了,以前禁食,把西瓜也禁了,因为吃完甜的水果他笑得特厉害,但排毒这3天我又给他吃了,因为他喝水不多.以前我儿子因为铅太多,多动,到处跑,自然排毒半月后以来,去公园坐在那里玩沙子,也不爱到处跑了现在能理解简单的几句话.[em03]
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发表于 2006-6-22 13:01:31 | 只看该作者

re:请问,你的DMSA栓剂是何家公司的产品?...

请问,你的DMSA栓剂是何家公司的产品?需要处方吗?谢谢!
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 楼主| 发表于 2006-6-22 19:47:50 | 只看该作者

re:我不知到哪家公司的DMSA,因为上面只标...

我不知到哪家公司的DMSA,因为上面只标有药店的名字,需要医生的处方.我用的其他的很多药是KIRKMAN的.
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 楼主| 发表于 2006-6-24 13:08:38 | 只看该作者

re:我是非常赞成禁食的人,我儿子3岁在儿童医...

我是非常赞成禁食的人,我儿子3岁在儿童医院就诊,一年半才给一个结果:自闭症.医生说治愈很难.医院经常给我们寄关于禁食的资料,在2月时禁了面与奶,但并没有好转,3月26日拿到过敏实验报告,他对25种食物严重过敏,轻微过敏的有20种,医生说肠漏很严重,必须禁食物所有严重过敏的食物,不能吃人工加工和成的食品,有防腐剂与色素.禁食物3天后全身的疹子没有了,要知道我对付疹子用了好多药,从没好过,我觉得我的路是对的,刚开始的时候我给他吃玉米与黄豆与蔬菜,绿豆不吃.我儿子是肉食动物,开始很难,但饿了他肯定会吃饭的,后来不过敏的玉米与黄豆,橙子也停了,现在所有的甜水果也停了,现在吃绿豆了,他的主食土豆,香菜,蘑菇,洋葱,白菜,黄瓜,西红柿,油只用橄榄油,但我发现他吃完蘑菇后爱有怪动作,我明天停掉.他每天吃土豆,他对土豆过敏但不严重,他不爱吃绿色蔬菜,过一段再停土豆吧.药物排毒前血与尿的检查一切正常.过敏实验测出的过敏食物一定要禁,不过敏的食物并不一定就不过敏,尝试去禁,特别身上有疹子的孩子,只禁奶与面是不够的,很多含有蛋白质的食物要注意.
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发表于 2006-6-28 12:01:53 | 只看该作者

re:请问,能提供你医生的联系电话或网址或EM...

请问,能提供你医生的联系电话或网址或EMAIL吗?谢谢!
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 楼主| 发表于 2006-7-2 12:09:59 | 只看该作者

re:我的排毒医生的电话是5144842222...

我的排毒医生的电话是5144842222 --27 传真是5144842205,他的电话不好打,要留言他的小姐才回过来,下周我问一下他的邮箱,他的地址是5025 SHERBROOKE  WEST 102 SUPPLEMENTS WESTMOUNT MONTREAL  QUEBEC CANADA 邮编是H4A 1S9 CANADA 他的名字是MEL ALTER,他不是医生,但他有一位与他合作的女医生开处方药,他的药店卖所有我想买的排毒药,他有很多雇员给他做药.[em05]
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 楼主| 发表于 2006-7-2 12:40:08 | 只看该作者

re:我儿子YEAST的问题一直没有完全解决,...

我儿子YEAST的问题一直没有完全解决,依旧有古怪的行为,有人认为汞中毒是根源,解决了汞的问题,肠漏的问题便解决了,但有人认为解决了肠漏的问题,排毒才能进行的更好,我在YAHOO网站上看到有一位用 GARLIC(大蒜)与UVA URSI解决YEAST的问题,用LAURICIDIN解决病毒的问题,我马上去买来,但我买错了LAURICIDIN,买成了LAURISINE(脂肪酸),我 用GARLIC与UVA URSI 还有OLIVE LEAF (橄榄叶的提取物,也抗病毒),用了三天,真神奇,古怪的行为很少发生了.现在我儿子理解能力好了一些,依旧不能说,昨天发现食物范围又扩大了,绿色蔬菜可以吃了,(原来土豆是主菜)现在我可以减少土豆的量,土豆含有水杨酸,吃多了对自闭症孩子不好.明天悦林进入第三轮排毒.[em03]
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发表于 2006-7-2 12:57:52 | 只看该作者

re:请问GARLIC与UVA URSI 还有...

请问GARLIC与UVA URSI 还有OLIVE LEAF 怎样购买?我儿子的古怪动作也挺多。谢谢!
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 楼主| 发表于 2006-7-2 13:09:06 | 只看该作者

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Yeast and Bacteria
Introduction

The healthy gut contains both yeast and good bacteria, in balance with each other. In many AS, however, one or the other can be out of balance. For example, yeast can overgrow and be too prevalent. Bacteria can overgrow, or there can be a complete lack of bacteria. Also, bad bacteria can develop, rather than good bacteria.

You can read Dr. Shaw's book [Great Plains Lab] online here -- Biological Treatments for Autism and PDD.

Symptoms of yeast and bacteria imbalance

For my son, yeast causes symptoms similar to phenol symptoms -- hyper and giggling, and sleep problems. Sometimes he would spin himself around in circles. For other children, it can cause red ring around the anus, "spaciness", anger and aggression, headache, head banging, sound sensitivity [holding the hands over the ears] and other similar issues. Also, my son's bms went from being firm and solid, to looking "airy and fluffy", similar to sponge cake. Also, it looked like it had strings of melted cheese in it. But sometimes my son's bms did not look any different than normal.

For bacteria overgrowth or "bad" bacteria, parents report their child had poor eye contact, tantrums, hand flapping and stimming, frequent [5-10 per day] and nasty bowel movements ranging from real soft to liquid. For my son, his bacteria bms looked like diluted cottage cheese.

There are several different types of yeast, including candida, which appears to be the most common variety. There are also several different types of "bad" bacteria, including clostridia and Citrabacter F.

My son never had a yeast or bacteria issue so far as I know, until I began chelating with ALA, when he did develop his first yeast issue. Because ALA excretes metals thru the gut, it does tend to increase the possibility of a yeast issue in yeast-sensitive children. Some people also report an increase in yeast issues when using DMSA for chelation.

There is also an increased tendency to develop a yeast issue if your child has to use antibiotics for ear infections or other issues. So if you choose to give your child antibiotics for something, be sure to use one of the OTC remedies indicated below, or ask your child's doctor for a prescription for an anti-fungal medication to use along with the antibiotics.

Lauricidin and other anti-virals can also cause yeast. With chelation [removal of heavy metals], my son's tendency toward yeast was entirely eliminated for about a year, until I started anti-virals. When I started Lauricidin with my son, his viral issues significantly reduced, but his yeast significantly increased. More information on this below.

Yeast can be in other places besides in the gut. Yeast can be in the mouth [thrush], or on the skin [diaper rash area or feet/toes or other skin area]. See ideas under OTC methods for addressing these yeast issues.

Testing

Testing for these issues can be performed at any competent laboratory, altho many parents report that "standard" laboratories did not detect their child's yeast and/or bacteria issues. Here are two laboratories with sites on the internet for your information.

The Great Plains Laboratory -- Testing

Great Smokies Diagnostic Laboratory

Dietary treatment options

During the "die-off" phase, when the excess yeast and/or bacteria is dying off, toxins released by the dying organisms can [altho not necessarily so] cause very severe negative reactions, so it is best to progress slowly, to minimize this die-off effect. Giving activated charcoal about 45 minutes after any yeast treatment can help absorb the toxins of die off.

The first thing to do is eliminate or at least drastically reduce the consumption of yeast, sugars, and carbohydrates. This includes using yeast-free breads and other baked goods. Sugars include cane sugar, fructose, honey, molasses, fruits, maple syrup, high fructose corn syrup, and other sources of sugars. Check supplements, especially chewables. A "little" sugar is okay, but you need to be aware of, and monitor, the total sugar intake.

For reduced carbohydrates, consider your child's consumption of wheat, rice, potatoes, corn, and other grains. There is a specialized diet called the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, which removes from the diet the carbohydrates which feed the yeast, allowing the body to rid itself of yeast on its own. For information on SCD diet specifically for autism, click here.

Some kids need removal of these carbohydrates AND removal or at least reduction of sugars as indicated above.

Over the counter treatment options

After considering dietary interventions, it is best to first try supplementing with probiotics, which is good bacteria and "food" for the good bacteria. This will not only help the good bacteria, but it also helps yeast issues because these bacteria will then kill the yeast themselves. Unfortunately, my son does not tolerate any probiotics that I have tried, even with enzymes. So you should choose a probiotic product and then start slowly, watching for effects. It may be that the probiotic is tolerated, but is causing die-off effect, so it is difficult to know if any negative effect is intolerance to the probiotic, or die-off. With my son, I started probiotics when he did NOT have a yeast issue, so I know it was intolerance and not die-off effect.

Here is a very comprehensive description of what are probiotics, and a list of the different types of probiotics and what they do.

Probiotics short course and strains

Probiotics are cultured in some sort of "medium", including milk and apples and possibly other things. If you are trying to stay gfcf, be sure you select a probiotic which does not contain milk and is not cultured in milk.

You can find many probiotics at any local health food store. You can also purchase probiotics and yeast control at Kirkman Labs, Vitamin Research Products, and Culturelle.

Other over the counter [OTC] remedies you can find at most health food stores, that you can try, are GSE [I use this for yeast] and olive leaf extract and colloidal silver [for bacteria]. Other yeast remedies you can consider, are garlic, oil of oregano, uva ursi, and biocidin.

I use GSE [grapefruit seed extract] for my son's yeast issues. It works GREAT! Eliminated his yeast issue in 2-3 days. I use the concentrated drops from Nutribiotic, which I buy at my local health food store. There is available a capsule form of GSE, but I have never used that so I do not know if it is equally as effective. There are a few potential negatives to GSE that I know of, one is that it does have phenol effect, so start with 1-2 drops in the morning, then watch to see any phenol-type reactions. Also, if your child is using SSRI medication, then you should not use GSE, because it slows down liver metabolism and affects levels of medications like SSRIs. And in individuals with liver metabolism which is already slow, they would want to avoid GSE, or if for some reason GSE is required, it is recommended to avoid strong-flavored foods and spices, and that will help.

Some parents have found similar dramatic results for their child's bacteria issues by using colloidal silver. There is some information that it should not be given long term, but over a period of 10 days, along with Culturelle, and then continuing with Culturelle alone, produced dramatic positive results for several people. There is a possibility of argyria, which is silver deposits under the skin causing discoloration, so do consider potential negatives as well as positives, and do not use it long term. My son's bacteria issue was not as bad as some kids, so he did well with olive leaf extract, which is an anti-bacterial and an anti-viral.

Yeast can be in other places besides in the gut. For yeast in the mouth [thrush], using GSE or other method can help. For yeast on the skin [diaper rash area or feet/toes or other skin area], you can put a diluted GSE on the skin, or go to your larger grocery store and purchase Lotrimin cream.

There are enzyme products now available, that will digest the yeast cell-wall and allow either the body's own system [along with probiotics] to eliminate the yeast, or if given along with GSE or other anti-fungal, the enzymes will cause the anti-fungal to be much more effective. These enzyme products are No-Fenol from HNI, Candidase from Enzymedica, and Candex [don't know the manufacturer for this one].

Prescription treatment options

There are several medications available for yeast and bacteria issues. One benefit of these options is that you and your doctor can choose a medication which targets the specific type of yeast or bacteria which is at issue. Medications for yeast include Nystatin and Diflucan. Medications for certain bacteria issues include Bactrim, Vancomycin, and neomycin [specially compounded oral suspension].

Lauricidin and Yeast

Lauricidin is an anti-viral over-the-counter supplement. I am using it for my son's viral issues. However, even tho it is not *supposed* to, it does cause yeast for my son, even tho he had not had a yeast issue since about round 50 of ALA chelation [chelation of heavy metals generally also helps resolve the underlying cause of yeast issues for many kids]. Because Lauricidin is *supposed* to be effective for yeast issues, my theory is that it is the viral die off which is triggering the yeast issue, and the yeast it causes is different than the traditional "gut-yeast" of many kids. My son's yeast from use of Lauricidin is not "gut-yeast", because it does not manifest in the bms at all, only in his behaviors.

I used GSE for yeast before chelation removed the yeast problem, but GSE did basically nothing for my son's yeast issue which was caused by the use of Lauricidin. I tried oil of oregano, which appeared to work better on this yeast, but not as well as I would like.

Then someone I know, whose child also developed yeast with Lauricidin, had her child tested and she sent me his test results. The results indicated that her child had two strains of yeast [albicans and parapsilosis] and those strains were susceptible to the OTC yeast killers uva ursi and garlic. So I tried those instead of GSE and oil of oregano, and my son is much better now.



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 楼主| 发表于 2006-7-2 13:25:40 | 只看该作者

re:我的药都在给我儿子排毒的药剂师开的药店买...

我的药都在给我儿子排毒的药剂师开的药店买的.上面的文章是我下载下来的,上面一点便可知如何买药,但我不知如何做发到这上面才能与我下载的东西一模一样.
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 楼主| 发表于 2006-7-4 02:54:37 | 只看该作者

re:我上面发关于YEAST的文章来自http...

我上面发关于YEAST的文章来自http;//health.groups.yahoo.com/group/autis-mercury,你可以到网上去看,如何买药网上有.
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 楼主| 发表于 2006-7-4 03:44:13 | 只看该作者

re:我把我儿子的过敏实验的结果写下来beef...

我把我儿子的过敏实验的结果写下来beef牛肉+5,casein+5,chicken鸡肉+3,egg鸡蛋+5,lamb羊肉+5,milk牛奶+5,pork猪肉+5,godfish金鱼+2,flounder+2,halibut+3,oyster+3,trout+2,salmon沙丁鱼+2,shrimp+4,tuna+3,banana+4,grapefruit柚子+2,rice大米+3,lima bean+2bean,string+3,malt麦芽糖+4,cashew腰果+2,sesame籽麻+2,papper,green绿青椒+3,clam+1,granberry+1,orange+1,barley+1 ,rye+1,peanut+1,soybean+1,chocolate+1,vanilla+1,yeast,brewes+1,almond+1,pistachio+1,sunflower+1,broccoli+1,mustard green+1,potato+1以上可以看出 我儿子过敏是非常严重的,+1是过敏但不严重+2+3+4是严重过敏+5是非常严重过敏,大于+2严格不能吃 ,如果属于过敏食物的家族食物一样不能吃.例如对鸡肉过敏,家禽就不能吃. 对某种鱼与虾过敏,所有的鱼与虾便不能吃,从3月26日以来,我们给他停了所有的肉类与鱼虾.米与面.与黄豆玉米,常易引起过敏食物我们全禁了.我儿子瘦了,但一切进展顺利,我们禁食物第一个月,医生给他开的所有营养药全拒绝吃,第二个月才开始接受营养药物.
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发表于 2006-7-4 13:24:19 | 只看该作者

re:谢谢你的的信息.希望继续你的排毒报告,希...

谢谢你的的信息.希望继续你的排毒报告,希望悦林早日恢复健康.
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 楼主| 发表于 2006-7-4 21:14:38 | 只看该作者

re:我儿子禁食物以前,睡眠每天3小时,禁食3...

我儿子禁食物以前,睡眠每天3小时,禁食3天后睡眠8小时,一周后有4天睡眠减少,后来正常,现在白天可以睡1个多小时.晚上睡觉8小时以上 ,一切正常.刚排毒时,用肠道抗生素,4天后我儿子不吃不喝只是躺着,我想可能是感冒吧,我老公拿来了米饭,谁都拦不住,他说,认可让儿子病死也不让饿死,我妈又给他喂了国内拿来的抗生素,我儿子有精神了,一个月后我读了<<饥饿大脑的孩子们>>,<<生物疗法>>等几本书才知道是YEAST死亡反应,抗生素加剧坏YEAST的繁殖与抗药性,但一切都晚了,依旧有YEAST的问题,医生推迟用DMSA10天.在排毒以前系统的读书,里面有一切你想要的东西,在看你的孩子属于哪一种病因,用哪一种药,找排毒医生,但父母是最关键.只有我们最了解我们的孩子.多看别人的经验.
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