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发表于 2008-9-19 11:11:05 | 只看该作者

re:Outting 是有的,只要孩子想在外面...

Outting 是有的,只要孩子想在外面玩就在外面玩。我们的ABA也有点皮了,Ean现在见到老师,就说ByeBye,某某!
老师要fun,孩子要有精力的时候效果是最好的。我们的Hour也没超过20,但是我有时也不忍心然他做太多,不管多Fun,还是学习。
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 楼主| 发表于 2008-9-19 11:18:25 | 只看该作者

re:zzl0207,多谢你的指点。我家贝...

zzl0207,
多谢你的指点。我家贝贝喜欢被我抛起来,转,背着跑等身体的活动。这时motivation极强。因为他太好动吧。可是这相关的就那么几个动词,无法扩展教他更多的语言。其他读书等他一点兴趣都没有。常常跑掉。一旦我做提问回答aba方式的训练,他就能意识到,有两次马上眼泪汪汪了。觉得真是黔驴技穷。我虽然读了很多各种方式干预的书,真做起来自己都觉得太贫乏。现在更多的是解说方式,不知他能听进去多少。
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发表于 2008-9-19 11:30:06 | 只看该作者

re:这也是我想说的呀!我们当时一个p...

这也是我想说的呀!

我们当时一个program一般同时订3个目标,容易的订5个。比如说做个why not/because (又叫’不可能的任务‘)的program, 那么我们一次开会就会至少订3-4个目标--

(把气球挂的高高的,然后让孩子摸气球)
--Can you touch the balloon?
- (Child) No I can't
-- Why not?
-- Because it's too high

(指着沙发底下)
--Can you hide under the couch?
--(Child) No I can't
-- Why not?
-- Because it's too low

(指着饭桌)
-- Can you pick it up?
-- (Child) No I can't
-- Why not?
-- Because it's too heavy

等等吧。所以一,两个星期以后再开会的时候,通常已经把前面制订的3-4个目标都完成了。这时就根据情况决定是再加几个,还是觉得这个program孩子已经基本掌握了,只需要随时’泛化‘。

关于语言治疗师(其实对于其他的所有人都适用),我太同意你的看法了。我的切身体会,一定找最好的,事倍功半。

下面引用由[U]宝贝贝[/U]发表的内容:
每当我觉得疲惫不堪或心情阴天时,都会到这个论坛看看,看看别的妈妈们的勇敢和信心和努力,就像汽车给加了油一样,又可以跑起来了。.

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发表于 2008-9-20 00:06:56 | 只看该作者

re:[QUOTE][b]下面引用由[u]宝贝...

下面引用由宝贝贝发表的内容:

zzl0207,
多谢你的指点。我家贝贝喜欢被我抛起来,转,背着跑等身体的活动。这时motivation极强。因为他太好动吧。可是这相关的就那么几个动词,无法扩展教他更多的语言。其他读书等他一点兴趣...


    宝贝贝,你家贝贝至少有三个活动,他是感兴趣的,非常可喜!只要他有感兴趣的东西,你就不怕!因为我们的重点是要教他如何与人互动!你说他在这三个活动时,motivation极强。在这种状态下,他一定兴奋和高兴。只要他能维持这种状态,你就可以变着法儿教他学语言。比如说“转”的时候,你可以给他唱那首“Teddy Bear Teddy Bear Turn Around”,我的儿子语言很差的时候,我一般都唱歌,他可以很好的融入,因为我唱的都是他耳熟能详的调调,以前带他去图书馆听图书馆阿姨讲故事,他都不听,但是阿姨一开始唱,他就手舞足蹈!所以抓住这一特征,我摇身一变就变成“歌词家”了。比如这首“Teddy Bear Teddy Bear Turn Around”的版本曾经被我改编成“小P,小P, Time to brush  your teeth; 小P,小P, Time to wash your face; 小P,小P, Time to take a shower; 小P,小P, Time to go to bed; 小P,小P, Time to let mom  kiss you ; 小P,小P, Time to say ‘good night; 小P,小P, Time to close your eyes; 小P,小P, Time to turn off the light; 小P,小P, Time to dream a sweet dream”大约有一个月,他每天晚上都要和我一起唱完(也做完所有该做的)这首“小P歌!”才入睡。非常happy 地上床过程。后来,我又换成“Rock my Baby on The Tree Top”照样画葫芦又把歌词改了。每次改编歌词我都依照他能理解的水平再往上调一点点,这样既适应他现有水平又可以让他接触到新名词(对他来说的新词汇),从而达到学到新东西的目的,还可以让他跟我们在互动中真正达到享受生活的乐趣。

       再说这个“转”的过程,一旦他很happy了,你就可以给他引入新的角色:比如他最喜欢的Stuffed animal之类的“人物”,第三者一加入,你就可以引导他跟这个“第三者”说话了,至于说什么,你也要根据他目前的水平来调整句子的长短结构,在这个过程中还可以让他玩一些pretend 的游戏,或者角色互换,告诉他假如他是那个Stuffed animal,他会想要干什么,哪怕他说“要喝水!”,你就可以拿个纸杯假装让他喂水喝。如果他注意力好的话,可以一直扩展下去!当然,一旦你发现他要跑了或注意力不集中了,要立即停止。换成另一种形式的,比如他感兴趣的是背着跑,跑的话,你也可以一边跑一边跟他说说你的感受:“贝贝,你好沉啊,妈妈背得out of breath 了,要不要我们take a break?”总之,你还是可以象聊家常一样可以继续下去的。当然,你还是要观察他在不在听和看你,如果不是,还是要立即停止。再换成另一种形式!关键是看他愿不愿意跟你交流!我们要激发他主动交流的意愿,一定要强调这个主动性。对于我们当父母的来说,这是challenge 的一件事。因为这种互动是dynamical的一件事,我们随时都要做出调整来协调孩子的需求!语言需要日积月累,不可能立马就可以进步,尤其我们这种孩子,更需要慢慢地教。这也是我始终认为家庭的干预非常重要,因为家庭成员跟他接触最多也最了解他,那些speech therapist再好,不可能像妈妈跟他在一起的时间来的久。我有一位朋友告诉我:他的儿子跟那个floor time 的训练师,花了一个多月时间才跟他玩,每小时50美元,每天100美金,第一个月2000美金好像白花了。我们做父母的至少根本不需要让你的孩子来化时间和你熟悉,取得信任吧!其实化点钱,能看到进步我们也愿意花,关键是看是否真有效果!

    所以,我非常强调要:“顺情而化”,重点不在于跟他玩什么,而在于如何让他高兴了,他就可以与你互动!所有那些干预的方法我们都不能生搬硬套的,抓住精华,切切实实地应用到日常生活里面来。还有一点:做父母的千万不要自己把自己先框住了,认为自己已经黔驴技穷。其实办法都是人想出来的,“万法归一”以我们的总原则即“千变万化都是为了如何让孩子与你积极的互动”,所以这个motivation就极其重要了。因此,我也很强调:我们做父母的要有很清静沉着的心态,才能创造出和谐的家庭气氛来让我们的孩子在宽松的环境下更有效的学习。不要把跟孩子的互动当作苦差事,也不要老想着要让他学多少多少东西,一定要作为一种享受,功到自然成,自自然然的教他学习和玩乐都是你生活的一部分!我最近每天早晨送儿子女儿到school bus站等车时,每天故意提前去10分钟在那两棵大树下玩中文儿歌游戏(因为最近他俩都开始上中文学校了),秋风阵阵,红叶飘飘,我们一起唱儿歌“两只小象河边走,翘起鼻子勾一勾,就象一对好朋友,见面握握手。”我还让他们俩手拉着手,鼻子对鼻子的kiss,姐弟俩,笑得喘不过气来,一直到上了bus还在那儿乐着呢!看着他们的bus远去,我会感恩,感激上苍又给了我们美好的一天!我们平安幸福的活着!

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 楼主| 发表于 2008-9-20 04:57:34 | 只看该作者

re:melon妈,谢谢你的指导。那么你们...

melon妈,
谢谢你的指导。那么你们同时做几个program啊?我指每周同时进行的。
我们现在每周同时进行10几个program,每个program 逐渐增加target。还是你们的快呀。难怪我儿子进行的慢呀。愿你身体早日好起来。

zzl0207
太佩服你的creativity了。这周末就实践。能把你创造的其他歌词也分享吗。我想很多妈妈都会受益不小的。

ean妈
我儿子也是这样啊。自发和老师说bye bye倒不用教。什么时候说别的也这样主动,我就开心了。
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发表于 2008-9-20 06:36:53 | 只看该作者

re:我们当时也是同时进行10几个progra...

我们当时也是同时进行10几个program, 还有若干个在maintainance。 我估计一个公司的模式都差不多。

下面引用由[U]宝贝贝[/U]发表的内容:

melon妈,
谢谢你的指导。那么你们同时做几个program啊?我指每周同时进行的。
我们现在每周同时进行10几个program,每个program 逐渐增加target。还是你们的快呀。难怪我...

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发表于 2008-9-20 10:17:42 | 只看该作者

现在还记得的几首歌词

引用宝贝贝“能把你创造的其他歌词也分享吗。我想很多妈妈都会受益不小的。”

1  Five Little Fingers(Tune:No More Monkeys   只用前面两句的tune:"Five little monkeys jumping on the bed ,One fell off and bumped his head")

   Five little fingers are in your hand,the first one is your thumb;It likes to press something.

   Five little fingers are in your hand,the second one is the index finger;It is very useful.

   Five little fingers are in your hand,the third one is the middle finger; It is the tallest one.

   Five little fingers are in your hand,the fourth one is the ring finger;It is a little shy one.

   Five little fingers are in your hand,the fifth one is the little finger;It is the shortest one.

2 Berry and Me(Tune:Rain Rain Go away,Little Johnny Wants to Play)

  Blackberry,Blueberry,Come to play with Me.
  Raspberry,Strawberry,Want to climb the Tree.
  Big Cherry(My daughter's English name),Big Cherry,Likes to Chase  Bees.
  Little Harry(our pet's name,it's a ladybug),Little Harry,Loves to be Free.

3 What Are You Doing?(Tune:Are You Sleeping?)

   Are you waking up?Are you waking up?
   Little P.(My son's nickname),Little P.
   Alarm clock is singing, Alarm clock is singing. Zing zing zing......

   Are you  eating? Are you eating?
   Little P. Little P.
   Chopsticks are clapping,Chopsticks are clapping.Tinkling,tinkling,tinkling.......
   
   Are you racing the car? Are you racing the car?
   Little P. Little P.
   Race car's bumping,  Race car's bumping.Voom voom,voom.......
   
4 你好点点头(Tune:Twinkle,Twinkle Little Star)

  你好,你好,点点头。
  你好,你好,握握手。
  是谁,是谁,有礼貌。
  我们,我们,小朋友。
   
    改编歌词,都是即兴的,随改随用,只要孩子喜欢,一直可以重复使用!(因为他们这种孩子最喜欢重复,可以每天都唱,一直唱到他可以说出来了。可以改唱另一首,也要根据他当前的语言水平而灵活机动地改编。)
    希望这几首,只是抛砖引玉!








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 楼主| 发表于 2008-9-20 22:22:29 | 只看该作者

re:太棒了。多谢你花时间。昨晚唱了你的新版t...

太棒了。多谢你花时间。昨晚唱了你的新版teddy bear,儿子专注的看着我,非常alert。趁热打铁也要连唱几星期,让他记住歌词。那可都是他该学会说的呀。
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发表于 2008-9-21 10:37:03 | 只看该作者

re:消化酶(enzyme)和Probioti...

消化酶(enzyme)和Probiotics 都有什么不同?听你讲,我不是很敢尝试Probiotics了。谢谢。
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 楼主| 发表于 2008-9-25 10:53:30 | 只看该作者

re:enzyme 基本有脂肪消化酶,碳水化合...

enzyme 基本有脂肪消化酶,碳水化合物消化酶,乳糖消化酶及果糖消化酶。我们的孩子往往缺少某些消化酶,造成那类食物无法好好消化吸收,长期积累在肠道,产生毒素,影响健康。通过testing可以知道孩子缺哪种酶,然后就要补充那种酶。我儿子缺乳糖酶(lactose),不知中文翻译是否对。所以禁止奶类是必须的。其实从他三岁时我就禁奶禁面了。现在很庆幸开始的早。他的肠道很健康。但是他缺乏果糖酶,所以在服用果糖酶。你可以观察他吃大量哪类食物后大便不会,试着找出规律,决定补充哪种酶。记得我过去不知道儿子那类酶缺乏时,买了heuston neutralceutical 的trienza,包括以上几种消化酶。他们的消化酶是最好的。他们只做消化酶。也可找肠胃医生做testing确认。最近看儿子小时候的medical record,他刚增添蔬菜水果辅食不久就拉稀看医生,就是因为身体缺少果糖酶。现在才知道为什么。

probiotics 如果孩子大便检测有yeast或bacteria通常会建议用probiotics。probitotics 有不同strains。开始用few strains (1-2 zhong), 量也要小,逐渐增加。不能一下子量很大种类太多。对身体burden 太大。

就想到以上这些。有什么疑问我知道的一定尽力回答。有时可能晚些。请你谅解。
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发表于 2008-9-25 11:19:33 | 只看该作者

re:太谢谢了,回答的很详细,我们这些人都很忙...

太谢谢了,回答的很详细,我们这些人都很忙,我已经感激不尽了。请不要太客气。
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 楼主| 发表于 2008-11-15 21:06:21 | 只看该作者

re:分享语言师如何model语言的技巧。...

分享语言师如何model语言的技巧。

Ineffective Conversational Modeling:
􀀯􀀯 Pointless Modeling
C: That’s a bid bird.
A: Not a bid bird.
A big bird.
• What did the child hear?
• ‘bid’ was heard twice and ‘big’ once
• adult cancelled him/herself out!
􀀯􀀯 Ineffective Modeling
C: That’s a bid bird.
A: Not a bid bird.
• You don’t say ‘bid bird’
• You have to remember to say ‘big bird’.
• Child tunes out
• Child heard ‘bid’ three times, and ‘big’ once (if they were listening)
􀀯􀀯 Exaggerated Modeling
C: Pease can I have one?
A: You mean puh-leeze.
Puh-leeze may I have one?
C: [THINKS] Yeah, yeah, yeah
• This exaggerated sort of Modeling is inadvisable.
• It distorts the sounds, so that the child does not hear the target properly.
􀀯􀀯 “Modeling” with NO model!
C: He hurt his weg.
A: Hurt his weg?
What are you supposed to say?
C: [thinks] Huh?
• In this example NO speech model has been provided.
􀀯􀀯 Imitating the child
C: I want the wed one pweeze.
A: You want the which one pweeze?
􀀯 􀀯 􀀯 􀀯 􀀯 􀀯 􀀯 􀀯 􀀯 􀀯 􀀯 􀀯 􀀯 􀀯
• No speech model has been provided.Ineffective Conversational Modeling:
􀀯􀀯 Pointless Modeling
C: That’s a bid bird.
A: Not a bid bird.
A big bird.
• What did the child hear?
• ‘bid’ was heard twice and ‘big’ once
• adult cancelled him/herself out!
􀀯􀀯 Ineffective Modeling
C: That’s a bid bird.
A: Not a bid bird.
• You don’t say ‘bid bird’
• You have to remember to say ‘big bird’.
• Child tunes out
• Child heard ‘bid’ three times, and ‘big’ once (if they were listening)
􀀯􀀯 Exaggerated Modeling
C: Pease can I have one?
A: You mean puh-leeze.
Puh-leeze may I have one?
C: [THINKS] Yeah, yeah, yeah
• This exaggerated sort of Modeling is inadvisable.
• It distorts the sounds, so that the child does not hear the target properly.
􀀯􀀯 “Modeling” with NO model!
C: He hurt his weg.
A: Hurt his weg?
What are you supposed to say?
C: [thinks] Huh?
• In this example NO speech model has been provided.
􀀯􀀯 Imitating the child
C: I want the wed one pweeze.
A: You want the which one pweeze?
􀀯 􀀯 􀀯 􀀯 􀀯 􀀯 􀀯 􀀯 􀀯 􀀯 􀀯 􀀯 􀀯 􀀯
• No speech model has been provided.

􀀯􀀯 Didactic Modeling
C: Tan you det it?
A: Not tan you det it.
Can you get it.
You say it: can you get it.
C: Tan you det it.
Followed by short talk on ‘can’, ‘tan’, ‘get’ and ‘det’ – sigh!
Modeling via a single ‘recast’:
The following example is typical of the way parents ‘model’ when their typical
language learner makes a speech error. The adult ‘recasts’ what the child says
…ONCE
􀀯􀀯 ‘Weak’ Modeling (single recast)
C: That’s a bid bird.
A: It is. It is a big bird.
It ‘comes naturally’ to model this way;
it is OK for a ‘typical’ language learner but not ‘powerful’ enough for a child with
a speech sound disorder
Effective conversational Modeling
The following examples are of ways to model effectively when speaking to
children who are having difficulties with speech sound development.
☺☺ Modeling corrections
C: I like his punny pace.
A: I like his funny face too.
It’s a really funny face.
A funny face.
Do you know what that guy with the funny face is called? Copyright © 2006 Caroline Bowen
☺☺ Modeling corrections
C: Det it down!
A: Get what down?
Oh, get this down?
OK. I’ll get it for you.
I think I can reach.
Uh-huh, I can get it.

Recasting
The term ‘recasting’ refers to repeating an error-utterance back to someone, but
with the error corrected. It can be an effective form of modeling.

Recasting for grammar
C: I maked my bed.
A: I made my bed.
Recasting for syntax
C: What time it is?
A: What time is it?
Recasting for vocabulary
C: Shall I get Daddy’s sword?
A: Shall I get Daddy’s saw.
Recasting for speech sounds
C: I want the lellow one.
A: I want the yellow one.
Recasting is often used by adults to encourage ‘manners’
C: Give me my juice.
A: What’s the magic word? Copyright © 2006 Caroline Bowen
Give me my juice please.

Conversational recasting when a child says a word incorrectly
provides a Modeling correction
☺ ☺ ☺ ☺ ☺ ☺ ☺ ☺ ☺ ☺ ☺ ☺ ☺ ☺
- without overt criticism …
- without interrupting the ‘flow’
- without getting in the way of listening
Conversational recasting when a child says a word correctly
provides positive reinforcement
☺ ☺ ☺ ☺ ☺ ☺ ☺ ☺ ☺ ☺ ☺ ☺ ☺ ☺
- without overt criticism
- without interrupting the ‘flow’
- without getting in the way of listening

Frequency — Remember to recast again!
When you notice you have “recasted”, remember to do it again with the same
sound, word, or grammatical structure, two or three times, later the same
day.
☺ ☺ ☺ ☺ ☺ ☺ ☺ ☺ ☺ ☺ ☺ ☺ ☺ ☺
Frequency of recasting
• aim for 12 to 18 “recasts” per minute Copyright © 2006 Caroline Bowen
• for 3 or 4 minutes of a day
• for the SAME word
• or for the SAME sound pattern
• or for the SAME grammatical structure
Important!
• Parent(s) are young children’s main speech and language models.
• Speech and language development is a gradual process.
• Expect your child’s progress to be gradual.
Illustration of frequency:
(1) TARGET
Choose a target for the day (usually a current therapy HOMEWORK target) e.g.,
velar fronting (t, d, n replacing k, g, ng respectively).

Illustration of frequency:
(1) TARGET
Choose a target for the day (usually a current therapy HOMEWORK target) e.g.,
velar fronting (t, d, n replacing k, g, ng respectively).
(2) THREE OR FOUR MINUTES
Recast for velar fronting as often as you can in conversation, but only for about
3-4 minutes in aggregate within a day.
The first time (the FIRST MINUTE) in the day that you do it, you might recast
"cup" 15 times in context when your child has just said "tup", and is showing an
interest in a cup ("Look Mom. This tup has a Tare Bear on it") Then a little later,
still in the FIRST MINUTE, you might say "cup" 17 times.
Later in the day, your child might be playing with cars, giving you the
opportunity to say "car" repeatedly, in one "lot" or two "lots" within the same
minute (the SECOND MINUTE).
In the same day, you might take one or two more separate minutes to recast
frequently.

Copyright © 2006 Caroline Bowen
Caroline Bowen PhD CPSP
Speech-Language Pathologist
9 Hillcrest Road, Wentworth Falls, NSW 2782, Australia
i: www.speech-language-therapy.com
e: cbowen@ihug.com.au
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(3) 12 TO 18 RECASTS
Twelve to eighteen can seem rather a lot! This is how you do it, making sure you
choose a relevant target for your child (e.g., don't recast "cow" many times while
your child is chatting about “keys”/ “teas”)!).
Child:
Him's tar talled Batmobile.
Adult:
His car? (1)
His car's (2) called Batmobile? Copyright © 2006 Caroline Bowen
That's a strange name for a car (3).
Our car's (4) a Toyota. Our car's (5) not a Batmobile!
You have a lot cars (6) there! Is one of those cars (7) a Batmobile?
Child
This tar is. It he's Batmobile tar.
Adult:
This car (8). Oh! This car's (10) the Batmobile car (11).
Not this car (12), not this car (13), not this car (14) , not this car (15), it's THIS
car (16).
May I play cars (17) with you?
Who's driving the Bat car (18)?
Child:
Me drive Bat tar ... car
Adult (thinks):
RESULT!
To get your recasts "in" you can use a bit of nonsense at times ("Oh I do love
this little car-car-car-cardee-car-car-car. It's my best car-car-car-cardee-car-carcar.
It's the best car-car-car-cardee-car-car-car on the road! (that's 18!).
You can also use songs and rhymes (Take me riding in your car-car...) using a
little poetic licence where applicable.
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 楼主| 发表于 2008-12-12 14:23:46 | 只看该作者

re:some recent language...

some recent language progress:
starts to put two words together. examples:
open door, open water bottle
blow  it
buckle up, unbuckle
shoes off, socks off
push button,(tonight he asked me to turn on the grinder by saying this to me. guess he likes the noise)
go upstairs bedroom
brush teeth
turn on music
help me squeeze
i want grease
cook egg
he could say can i have sth (a food or a book) a while ago

on weekends,he asked for flowers. i put the vase on the table so he can reach, he said, pick. (he wants to pick the flowers).

most times, used in the context.

hopefully, he could use a variety of simple sentences in 6 months time at similar progress rate of other kids at this forum

progress in OT:
could junmpt on trampoline while turning around (multiprocessing. he could not do it in the summer when they evaluated him)
could hop on trampoline
could skip (this started in september)

OT areas to work on:
tactile needs
wheelbarrow walk etc
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 楼主| 发表于 2008-12-25 10:15:42 | 只看该作者

re:酝酿已久的高压氧治疗开始了出乎意料之...

酝酿已久的高压氧治疗开始了
出乎意料之外,贝贝还很合作。希望能有好的效果。
不过补充supplements 的任务更艰巨了。不然会有倒退。还有一两样没买到呢。急

最近心理压力好大。儿子一天天大起来,可是语言仍缓慢不前。尤其是看到坛子里其他比他小的孩子的飞速进步。觉得儿子medical方面可能是突破口。尤其是他yeast得到控制后状态大不同。希望高压氧治疗能带来一个新的台阶。
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re:贝贝妈妈:好久没聊了,想念你!。你说话平...

贝贝妈妈:好久没聊了,想念你!。你说话平静,温柔,我依然能体会你心里的着急和痛,你这么努力,老天不会辜负你。
建议你高压氧治疗开始以后每天记录贝贝的状态,有个清晰的对比,才知道有没有效果。
关于教Ean说话的事,那些我都没有特意教过,只是生活中随机教过,他的ABA还没教到回答问题,其实如果我手里有强化物的话,Ean会回答我很多的问题,都是他ABA中学来的。但我都看不上,因为没法区分他是理解了,还是背下来了。比如说他能回答Where do you live 的问题,但是我觉得挺没劲的,他不理解他说的是城市名。我记下来的都是生活中有接触但没教过,而且随意问他的。
真希望高压氧能给你的宝贝带来惊喜。期待你的Update。
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 楼主| 发表于 2008-12-26 03:19:46 | 只看该作者

re:谢谢你的安慰。有空打电话。建议你...

谢谢你的安慰。有空打电话。

建议你高压氧治疗开始以后每天记录贝贝的状态,有个清晰的对比,才知道有没有效果。
做这个高压氧治疗很辛苦。尽量抽空多记载吧。

圣诞快乐!
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re:宝贝贝妈你好,你要买SUPPLEMENT...

宝贝贝妈你好,你要买SUPPLEMENTS的话,为什么不去请教一下DAN 医生呢?问过医生可能会安心很多。你知道你家宝贝开始做了高压氧的治疗没有,我也有这个打算,不知道要去哪里可以找到专业的高压氧的治疗师呢?
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 楼主| 发表于 2008-12-27 04:35:53 | 只看该作者

re:lixiuzhen,你好。谢谢你...

lixiuzhen,

你好。谢谢你的关心。我为高压氧治疗需增加的SUPPLEMENTS是很普通药店就有卖的。碰巧那天去的那家没有。现已买到。我一直在看DAN医生,快两年了。一直以来都是保守但疗法。SUPPLEMENTS等已吃了快两年了。最近才刚下决心高压氧治疗。因为过去一直担心它的不良结果。如增加OXIDATION STRESS。(我儿子本来就有OXIDATION STRESS)

实在是儿子进步实在缓慢,不得不采取较大行动了。现在刚开始高压氧还没觉察什么效果。我会update。我的高压氧的治疗师在新泽西州。不知你在哪,
好像看到你儿子已经开始CHELATION了。你采取的是哪种PROTOCOL?觉得效果如何?
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re:deleted.

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re:小P妈还真厉害,但我来请教的不是消化酶的...

小P妈还真厉害,但我来请教的不是消化酶的问题,而是高压氧的治疗。贝贝妈你好,其实我儿子现在查出他含重金属比较多,而且不是一般的多,所以我的DAN 医生现在主要的是在做排毒的工作,我儿子的语言程度也是极差,3岁多了还是在叠音状态,我也是担心的要命,每晚想了都睡不着。所以也想如果有必要的话我会给他做高压氧的治疗。其实我儿子刚开始看DAN 医生才2个月,比起看DAN 医生前来说的话,是有点进步的,没看之前我是要逼他他才说的,现在只要问他他就会回答你的,以前他想要什么就拉你的手,现在他想要什么就会拉着你的手说‘咪咪,COOKIE’就这样子。
   上次看了些资料关于高压氧的,有的说有很大的副作用,有的说没有,我也被弄糊涂了,心里也是很矛盾不知道该不该做?那你是住在新泽西吗?我是在麻省的,但我也经常去纽约的。想问一下做高压氧治疗时间上是怎么样安排的呢?多久做一次?
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