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发表于 2011-1-25 19:35:41 | 只看该作者

re:耶路撒冷爱玩笑的交警做的交通灯[IM...

耶路撒冷爱玩笑的交警做的交通灯
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发表于 2011-1-25 19:37:41 | 只看该作者

re:比利时布鲁塞尔情人节专用交通灯,好温馨好...

比利时布鲁塞尔情人节专用交通灯,好温馨好浪漫呀

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re:布拉格街头的交通灯,这个太有创意。 ...

布拉格街头的交通灯,这个太有创意。
越越就是喜欢这些东西,弄不懂。

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re:当了一年司机,我闯过三次红灯。被家里大哥...

当了一年司机,我闯过三次红灯。被家里大哥拎着去看现场,心里很不爽,不是因为要罚款,而是因为人家气盛,又反驳不了,二天没说话。
我主动和物擦碰过5次,地下停车场的柱子是主要对象。
别人碰我2次。其中一次被人追尾,我见红灯停下,后面的人却想加速过黄灯,怎么想的?象做梦一样地被撞出去好多米。还有一次是别人停车碰到我的。
相比之下,别人碰我比较伤车比较厉害。家里大哥说,别人之所以碰我,也是因为我的技术没过关,不老练[EM11]。可是别人的确也不碰他,我只好没话说。
今年决心减少次数。

  
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re:AS学车和教练指南(英国)Dri...

AS学车和教练指南(英国)

Driving and Asperger Syndrome
Part 1
Tips and tactics for people with Asperger Syndrome who want to learn to drive or
improve their driving skills
In a society where a driving licence is considered to be a “right” there is an expectation
that one will be able to drive. Someone with Aspergers has to realise that this is one of
several ways in which the syndrome can prove to be debilitating and that they may not
be able to succeed in passing the driving test. This leaflet aims to help alleviate some of
the problems that people with Aspergers experience when learning to drive and
hopefully maximise their chances of getting through the test. It will also be helpful to
an Asperger who can already drive in understanding how their condition may impact on
driving. It will enable them to drive better and possibly take an advanced driving test
Though Asperger Syndrome is a disability, it can also in many ways be an asset. One
advantage is determination. Aspergers are people who are reluctant to give up a cause.
Thus, if an Asperger really wants to drive, though it may prove to be hard graft because
of the problems referred to in this leaflet, they will usually succeed in the end. Like
most people with Asperger Syndrome, once you have learned something you do not
forget it.
Difficulties likely to arise and tips to help overcome them:-
Dispraxia - Driving uses many physical skills such as coordinating hands and feet to
move at the same time when changing gear. You may find complex movements such as
this difficult or even impossible to carry out. As a result, it may take you a long time to
learn to drive or you may find you cannot manage it at all.
Tip: It may help to learn to drive in an automatic car from the outset or to
switch to an automatic if after a few driving lessons handling a manual gear change is
proving too difficult.
Multi-Tasking – An issue related to dyspraxia is that Aspergers frequently have difficulty multitasking
which, of course, driving often involves. Aspergers tend to work best when they have one task
to concentrate on. You may have difficulty with driving as it frequently involves doing
several things at once, e.g. steering, changing gear, looking ahead, anticipating possible
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hazards, etc. Such multi-tasking is not easy, especially as you have to try and develop all
these skills at once when learning.
Tip: To prepare yourself before learning to drive it pays to try and pick up skills
of observing traffic, judging speed and distance, looking for hazards, etc while travelling
with others or on public transport, even when walking along a street. Watch the drivers;
look at the situations where they make observations requiring a judgement, such as
whether there is a big enough gap to pull out of a side turning or whether there is
sufficient time to overtake. With young teenagers parents can develop these skills by
discussing such situations when driving in the family car. Learning to cope with cycling in
traffic will also help as would Cycle Proficiency Training.
Tip: Watching videos on the basics of driving skills before starting driving
lessons can assist you in developing observation and judgement skills as well as
highlighting where, how and what to observe, so you will have some expertise in these
respects already.
Tip: Parents of very young children with Aspergers could ensure their child is
given toy cars with steering mechanisms which simulate the real thing as closely as
possible as there is no harm in starting very young.
Estimating – You may have difficulty estimating speed and distance, again an important
skill in driving. As already indicated, this aspect of driving can be worked on before you
take to the road by observing traffic and also by watching videos. Even if you have
passed your test and had quite a bit of experience, estimating speed and distance can
still be something of a problem.
Tip: Be cautions in situations like emerging from side turnings or overtaking - if
in doubt hold back.
Tip: Learn simple cues. For example, when stopping behind another car in a line
of traffic or similar situation remember to leave enough room between the two vehicles
so you can see its wheels in front of your bonnet, so if it breaks down you will have room
to pull round it. A way to help remember this is to say “Tyres on Tarmac” or “ToT”.
Similarly when driving on the open road you should leave sufficient gap between your
vehicle and the one in front, so if the vehicle ahead has to do an emergency stop you
have time to stop too – this should be a gap of two seconds and you can measure this by
noting when the vehicle in front passes a feature such as a mark on the carriageway or a
roadsign and you should have time to say ‘Only a fool breaks the 2 second rule’ before
your vehicle reaches that feature. The highlighted phrases are examples of cues which
will help you remember these principles and you may be able to think of others to help
you with driving processes.
Rule Application – You may find learning new skills easier when there is a clear set of
guidelines and rules. Motoring is quite rule-orientated with the Highway Code and “the
System [1]”. This element of driving would seem to be straightforward, but life is not
that simple. You as a driver with Aspergers will keep to the rules (as any good driver
should, of course!). The problem is however that other drivers do not always keep to the
rules e.g. getting in the wrong lane and changing at the last minute to get an advantage in
traffic, coming out of a side turning directly in front of you etc. You may find other
drivers breaking the rules very frustrating. Driving is a bit like football. There is a set
of rules to comply with but there is also interaction between the players and it may be
more difficult for you to get the finer points of this interaction (and also to continue
the analogy have the necessary coordination to be able to handle the ball/car).
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Tip: A large element of good driving is being aware that others sometimes break
the rules, and being prepared for this, e.g. looking out for it and allowing room in case
the other motorist should make a sudden unexpected manoeuvre contrary to the
principles of the Highway Code, etc.
Tip: There are very occasionally situations when it is appropriate to break rules,
e.g. going the wrong side of a “keep left” bollard when your own carriageway is blocked
by an accident or driving onto the pavement when otherwise you would impede the
progress of an emergency vehicle. It must be emphasised, however, that such situations
are very much the exception and before carrying out such an action you must be sure it
is entirely safe to do so. .
Coping with Road Rage - All drivers make mistakes, but sadly we are in a world where
drivers are frequently intolerant of others’ mistakes. There is an apocryphal story that
there is an empty display case in the Institute of Advanced Motorists’ headquarters
with the label, “When we find the perfect driver we will have them stuffed and put in
here”! People with Asperger Syndrome often have difficulty when criticised. Thus, you
may easily get upset in this sort of situation and not know how to respond to it. If you
make a mistake whilst driving, you are often likely to get verbal abuse, rude gestures or
similar and coping with this can be difficult for any one.
Tip: Remember that all drivers make mistakes and somebody who overreacts to
one has as much of a problem as someone who has difficulty handling criticism.
Tip: If you do make a mistake, whether it is criticised by another or not, it is
not the end of the world. Try and learn from it and improve you driving. Also, if
appropriate acknowledge your mistake by giving an apologetic wave or saying sorry if car
windows are open so you can be heard.
Tip: If someone criticises your driving, pause for a short time, e.g. count slowly
to ten, before reacting to it. If you are really upset about something, it might be an idea
to park and have a break for a few minutes before driving on.
Body Language - In many situations people communicate with other drivers or
pedestrians (or driving instructors) by facial expression and gesture, for example if a
driver wants to know if another one is going to let them out of a side turning into a
queue of traffic or if a pedestrian wants to know if a driver is going to let them cross
the road. This may be one of the obvious difficulties you experience and you may need to
be constantly trying to improve your awareness of facial expression, and related issues
such as body language.
Tip: Be aware that this may be a potential problem and allow for it. Where
appropriate, make sure your own intentions are clear, e.g. by using indicators and
positioning your car correctly for the situation.
Concentration - All drivers have to try and focus on what they are doing all the time, but
no human being is capable of providing 100% concentration. You, however, may have a
particular ability to concentrate very well, especially when it is a task you enjoy. Thus
you should be able to focus on your driving at least as well and possibly better than
others. Sometimes, however, people with Aspergers have difficulty in concentrating for
extended periods; if this is the case, it is advisable to take frequent breaks when
driving.
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Coping with particular distractions may however be a problem for you; sudden, loud or
irritating noises, intermittent noise from windscreen wipers, passengers starting to talk
loudly or behaving boisterously etc. This may be a big problem whilst driving.
Tip: Make sure you are familiar with all the ‘noises’ made by the car you are
driving, then when you hear the noise you will find it easier to put it into the back of you
mind and not become distracted.
Tip: If noise from passengers is likely to be a problem it is wise to advise them
of this issue at the start of the journey and trust they respect your needs.
Tip: You may need to cease conversation with passengers in order to
concentrate on a potentially hazardous situation on the road ahead. If as a driver you
tend do this, advise your passengers this may happen at the start of the journey as
otherwise they might find this disconcerting.
Tip: If a noise problem occurs which cannot be resolved immediately, e.g. if you
are being distracted by a baby in the car crying inconsolably, you should pull over and
stop when it is safe to do so until the situation is dealt with.
Tip: Another possible distraction is the car radio. You will need to decide
whether to use a car radio whilst driving, though this is of course a decision for all
drivers, not just those with Aspergers.
Tip: A related issue is that even a reasonably experienced driver with
Aspergers may concentrate on one hazard developing ahead and ignore another beyond
that because of difficulties multi-tasking, e.g. you may concentrate on a car about to
come out of a side turning and miss seeing a pedestrian about to cross the road beyond
this. It is important to try and be aware of this possibility and do your best to avoid it
by looking ahead throughout the whole field of vision and being prepared to take action
in relation to any hazards developing.
Glare – Whilst glare from the sun or headlights can be a problem for all drivers, it can
particularly be so for those with Aspergers as they have difficulty in adapting to sudden
changes in lighting.
Tip: Try and anticipate situations where you might be faced with sudden glare,
e.g. when coming out of a tunnel or from under trees into bright sunlight or at night
when you can see a car approaching with its headlights on full beam. If you are having
difficulty direct your eyes towards the kerb or side of the road well in front whilst
using your peripheral vision to focus directly on what is happening in front of you until
the glare has passed. Otherwise, slow down or stop.
Learning to Drive
Some people learn to drive more easily than others. Ability to learn to drive is not a
measure of intelligence or other abilities, so if you find that you need a lot of lessons,
you should not compare yourself unfavourably with others just because you have
Asperger Syndrome and take a while to pass your test.
Choosing an Instructor - It is important for any learner driver to have an instructor
who suits their temperament and with whom they can develop a positive relationship.
This is particularly so for you as a person with Aspergers. We all have difficulty learning
when we are stressed, but this may be particularly so for you. The instructor should be
made aware of the issues relating to Asperger Syndrome and driving – the easiest way
to do this is, of course, to give them a copy of this leaflet and one or two general
leaflets on Asperger Syndrome.
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Part 2
Tips for Driving Instructors
First of all it may be very helpful for you as a driving instructor about to start teaching
someone who has Asperger Syndrome to find out about them personally and their
condition from someone close – parent or partner. They may be able to give you some
insights into their way of learning and reacting. It may also be helpful for you, the
instructor, to read the previous section of this leaflet, Tips and information for people
with Aspergers, as well as this other information about Aspergers.
Below we have detailed some of the effects of Asperger Syndrome that will
have implications for the learning process, how they can be recognised in the learner and
how you may be able to deal with the situation should the need arise. All of the
following conditions can give rise to a higher state of anxiety for the AS learner; it is
far more difficult to learn anything in this state so easing anxiety at all times is the key
to you affectively teaching new skills.
Language - Aspergers tend to take everything quite literally and do not understand
colloquial expressions, irony and certain types of jokes. Thus, for example, saying “Put
your foot to the floor” might be interpreted as take your foot off the accelerator or
even accelerate to the maximum! Saying ‘that was really good’ in an ironic tone of voice
(meaning it was bad) may be understood as praise!!
Most learners with Aspergers will not be able to take hints that they are doing
something wrong. Instruction needs to be clear and direct and positive, though not to
the point of being too blunt in view of the difficulty many Aspergers have handling
criticism. They will always be trying their best.
Dispraxia – This is a difficulty in coordination movements especially when it involves
using hands and feet at the same time – it is noticeable as a natural clumsiness. If this
is a big problem for the learner driver it may be best for them to use an automatic car
thus allowing them to concentrate on other aspects
Multi-Tasking - an issue closely related to dispraxia in that Aspergers frequently have
difficulty doing more than one thing at a time, such as looking in the mirror, signalling
and controlling the car in a manoeuvre. Therefore the instructions given need to be
explained in advance and then given slowly in sequence at the time, just giving the
learner time to comply before moving on to the next movement. After a very short
while the sequence will be remembered as one whole action – especially if given the same
verbal cue e.g. MSM (mirror signal manoeuvre).
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Estimating - Aspergers often have difficulty estimating speed and distance, again an
important skill in driving. The cue to wait longer rather than rush when pulling out of
junctions therefore may need to be reinforced and visual cues such as being able to see
the tyres of the car in front when in slow traffic and the two-second rule (Only a fool
breaks the 2 second rule.) for steady driving will need to be taught.
Generalisation - Instructors need to be aware that the Asperger might not apply
knowledge acquired in one area to another. Thus they need to ensure that skills and
rules applied to one situation are generalised and used in all situations. For example, a
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driver will be told to use the horn to draw attention to their presence when a pedestrian
is possibly about to step into the vehicle’s path, and also when another motorist is
possibly about to drive into it.
It is important for the instructor to provide the Asperger pupil with as wide a
range of driving situations as possible, e.g. different traffic and weather conditions,
different times of day, urban/rural, different routes to aid generalisation of learning
skills. As an example, one young man known to us became a proficient driver, but did not
realise until somebody told him three years later that he could use main beam headlights
on open unlit roads!
Success for the Aspergers pupil will be highly likely if the instructor approaches
driving in a systematic manner, teaching all aspects in a structured way including what
might otherwise be considered to be the glaringly obvious.
Implications of signs - The Asperger pupil may be able to learn the theory aspect of
driving very well but problems could arise in understanding the implication of this theory
when driving. The instructor needs to ensure theoretical knowledge is applied to reallife
situations. For example, as well as learning to recognise the school sign in the
Highway Code, the pupil will need to know this means at certain times of day they need
to watch out for children entering and leaving the school, therefore taking even more
care than usual.
Rule Application - People with Asperger Syndrome work best when there is a framework
of rules. Motoring is quite rule-orientated with the Highway Code and “the System” (as
in the Police Driving Manual, “Roadcraft”). This would suggest this element of driving
would not be a problem to them, but life is not that simple. A driver with Aspergers will
always keep to the rules (as any good driver should, of course!). The problem arises when
they need to recognise that other road users may not always do the same. Other drivers
not keeping the rules can be very frustrating to the Asperger; e.g. when they get into
the wrong lane and change at the last minute to get an advantage in traffic, The
Asperger pupil will need to learn to take the positive action of being prepared for
others’ mistakes by allowing adequate time and space for any necessary action.
Body Language - In some situations one communicates with other drivers, pedestrians,
etc by facial expression, for example if a driver wants to know if another one is going to
let them out of a side turning into a queue of traffic or if a pedestrian wants to know if
a driver is going to let them cross the road. Obviously this may be difficult for someone
with Asperger Syndrome. They will therefore need to be taught other positive actions
to indicate that they have seen/been seen by another and clearly indicate this by their
actions e.g.’ stopping to give way – using their indicators or flashing lights to symbolise ‘I
am here’ etc.
Coping with Road Rage -an Asperger pupil may have difficulty coping with others’ anger
– or in some cases their own show of frustration or reaction to criticism. Therefore they
will need to be given or reminded of calming strategies, e.g. deep breathing and counting
to 10.
Learning to Drive - the Process
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• Some people learn to drive more easily than others. Obviously those with
Aspergers are generally likely to be in the category of slower learners but (like
the tortoise) may well succeed brilliantly in the end.
• Knowledge others acquire naturally in everyday situations may need to be
specifically taught to an Asperger pupil - it pays to take nothing for granted.
• Some learners may have been preparing for driving lessons – picking up various
skills over several years, e.g. Observing road conditions, roadsigns etc. as a
passenger.
• It is still advisable to break down the tasks into separate clear instructions
given in sequence until they are becoming automatic.
Getting to know the Aspergers pupil - It is important for any learner driver to have an
instructor who suits their temperament and with whom they can develop a positive
relationship. This is particularly so for Aspergers. In the first few sessions developing
communication, trust and confidence with the pupil will make the whole process much
easier. We all have difficulty learning when we are stressed, but this is particularly so
for the Asperger. You may feel that taking on a pupil with Aspergers is too much like
hard work but once well taught the Asperger will always remember and apply their
learning and therefore can prove to be a very good and competent driver even going on
to advance their skills. It is also worth bearing in mind it might be possible to develop a
niche market teaching Asperger pupils. Many people with Aspergers know others through
attending groups for those with the syndrome, so success can mean you are
recommended to others.
Having read this and the accompanying leaflet should, we hope give you the instructor a
head start in what can become a very rewarding process for you and your pupil. Good
Luck...
Part 3
Practical Licensing Issues
The UK Forum of Mobility Centres has 17 centres where those with disabilities, including
Asperger Syndrome, can have a preliminary off-road assessment to see if they are likely
to be able to learn to drive successfully and those with more severe Aspergers may wish
to avail themselves of this facility.
All drivers have to take the theory as well as the practical driving test. The element of
the test with questions about the Highway Code, etc should usually be relatively easy for
the Asperger as they have good memories and are often good at quizzes. Sometimes,
however, people with Aspergers Syndrome also have problems of dyslexia. If this is the
case they are entitled to ask for extra time to take the theory test or other
appropriate special provision.
Passing the hazard perception test might be more difficult. You will need a clear idea of
what this involves. A hazard is a situation on the road which may cause you to have to
slow down or change your direction. The hazard perception test is concerned with
testing your ability to recognise what is classed as a developing hazard. A car parked by
the side of the road may mean you have to slow down or change your direction to drive
past it, but this would not be classed as a developing hazard in terms of the perception
test. It would be classed as one if the driver started signalling to move away or if a
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vehicle was coming in the opposite direction and there might not be enough room for
both to get by. Most videos on driving will explain what hazards are but the Driving
Standards Agency video and accompanying booklet, “What if?” is particularly
recommended as it not only explains what a hazard is, but it also shows how the hazard
perception test and also the theory test are conducted. If after watching this potential
you are still having difficulty recognising what a hazard is, you should seek further
advice from your instructor. It is important to be aware that in the hazard perception
test one only has one shot at going through it as one cannot go back and review answers
unlike in the rest of the theory test, but this is, of course, how driving is in reality on
the road!
Legal requirements
When applying for a driver’s licence you should notify DVLA that you have the syndrome.
This is on the basis that it is a condition which may affect the ability to drive safely. It
is, of course, important to be aware that one might be prevented from having a licence
which could be very disappointing. When someone with Asperger Syndrome is added to a
car insurance policy, the insurance company should similarly be notified that they have
Aspergers. Failure to do so may result in a claim being refused if the condition then
comes to light and possibly also prosecution for driving without insurance.
Advancing
Being members of the Institute of Advanced Motorists (IAM), the authors of this
leaflet strongly believe that driving skills are something to be developed after passing
the Department for Transport test. Obviously passing an advanced test such as the IAM
or RoSPA (Royal Society for the Prevention of Accidents) ones are a way of measuring
such development. Whilst some people go on to take an advanced test within a few weeks
or months of passing their DOT test, they are the exception. Most people need some
years’ experience before taking a further test. For the person who has had difficulty
learning to drive, whether as a result of Aspergers or otherwise, getting to this higher
stage may take a while and of course they may not be able to achieve it. Whether one
actually passes a test to demonstrate them, it is certainly worth working on your driving
skills. This leaflet is intended to help a person with Aspergers to do this and also, for
example, an IAM observer with such a candidate.
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发表于 2011-1-27 08:25:50 | 只看该作者

re:哎呀,还是不敢开呀。觉得太难太难了,虽然...

哎呀,还是不敢开呀。觉得太难太难了,虽然历时2年考了票
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发表于 2011-1-29 04:00:00 | 只看该作者

re:[QUOTE][b]下面引用由[u]ma...

下面引用由maggie7343发表的内容:

开车容易停车难呀。。。刚才跑到银行一趟,没地方停。于是看到对面一个商场前有停车位,但车停得乱,还有自行车。好不容易钻到一个小空位子里,但下车一看,我的车是停斜了,后屁股离右边车好近。怎么调啊,前后都有...



国内经济腾飞之后,每年增加的新手N多。结果就是在高速路上压线走的车多,过了高速出口,倒车回走的N多,更多的是高档住宅小区停车场里的车停的歪歪斜斜的,常见一车占两车位。我某年回国停车之后,有一熟妇跟我搭讪,原来车位狭窄,自己停不进去,先生出差了,只好呆在地下车库里,逮谁谁帮忙。

反正女司机很牛,国内地产发展商都是能卖多一平方厘米,他们就卖多一平方厘米。所以广州的车位我看都是比较狭窄。在这种压抑的空间里,我比较烦躁。某天着急出门,结果单行车道里进来一逆行的牛车,我打灯、按喇叭,它就是不让。气得我下车就冲上那车准备肉搏一场,靠近车门一看。牛人,一熟妇是也,任你风吹雨打,没反应。我只好倒霉地灰溜溜地在下载的地下停车场里,主动地为这位逆行的牛人让道。

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发表于 2011-1-29 09:51:19 | 只看该作者

re:别“熟妇”啊,这是广东口语吗?还是用北京...

别“熟妇”啊,这是广东口语吗?还是用北京话吧,叫“大妈儿”,透着亲切。

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发表于 2011-2-11 09:53:00 | 只看该作者

re:我也对开车完全没感觉,所以驾照忘了年审被...

我也对开车完全没感觉,所以驾照忘了年审被注销了,我觉得那完全是一种解脱,呵呵
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发表于 2011-2-11 21:33:31 | 只看该作者

re:俺家春节期间行驶的道路都很顺畅,大部分路...

俺家春节期间行驶的道路都很顺畅,大部分路程都是60-90公里以上的时速。尤其是驾驶员进步了,不再用S档,学会用D档开车之后,油耗问题彻底解决。
两次加满油之间的里程除以油钱,得出百公里7.5个油,与以前相比的14L省了近一半啊。
但电视里播放的节油大赛里,冠军的这款1.8L的卡罗拉百公里耗油量只有4.6升,被气死。

另一个曾令我家司机纠结的说法,新车2000公里之前,要低速磨合,有说<60有说<80,还有人夸她用S档就最有利于磨合了,2000公里之后需要做一次“拉高速”,她本打算400元雇专业人员来拉高速,合同写好依次连续5分钟120km/h,2分钟140,1分钟160,30秒180,可就是没写罚款谁付,人家说放心,他负责遮挡车牌,没事儿。后来又听说应该3000公里首保之后再拉,又听说,拉高速属于20年前手动车的老黄历了,现在的车根本用不着如此“保养”。纠结至今。
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发表于 2011-2-11 22:51:53 | 只看该作者

re:60-90公里时速是最经济速度,接近理论...

60-90公里时速是最经济速度,接近理论值,当然7.5个油。
市内14升,一般般。走走停停,理应如此。11-13是可以接受的。

磨不磨合似乎不是问题了。不知道怎么出罚款,所以我不超过120,4年了,也没有什么问题。反正不想开快车。偶尔一次在江苏,路宽车少,跟在奥迪后面140,声音响得雷同于轰炸机,自觉回到120.机器没有那么娇嫩。不容易坏的。如同橡皮筋,未必要拉到极限,平时用得40-50%就不错了。难道要女的飙车200才发挥车的极限?
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 楼主| 发表于 2011-2-22 16:13:54 | 只看该作者
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发表于 2011-2-22 17:02:48 | 只看该作者

re:日系车油耗少, 铁皮薄。 GM的车发动机...

日系车油耗少, 铁皮薄。 GM的车发动机一直不够好, 再加上一向“油老虎”的恶名。 还是欧系车好,推荐大众系列,性价比最高的是桑车,可惜不好看。  
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发表于 2011-2-22 17:22:08 | 只看该作者

re:北京都7.45元啦。俺家又花了两箱油,计...

北京都7.45元啦。俺家又花了两箱油,计算结果,百公里耗油肯定小于7.3,而且这回是有近100公里、估计含100个180度的转弯、路面积雪薄冰的盘山公路,车速不超过30Km/h。
坚决哈日!
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发表于 2011-2-22 17:30:44 | 只看该作者

re:车辆出险保险索赔技巧--让每个车友都能学...

车辆出险保险索赔技巧--让每个车友都能学习


  车辆出险保险索赔技巧--绝对有用的帖子,您一定要珍藏!!!(希望能让每个车友都能看到)


  车辆出险保险索赔绝对技巧


  有车的朋友一定都买了车险。但是如今的保险公司的车险条文中,却是陷阱重重!
  今天就发文揭露保险公司的陷阱和条文中的疑团,看了以后要是有收获,请大家帮我顶一个!
  包括N多的出险案例,很有实际指导意义,希望对大家有帮助。
  最清晰的讲解,唯一普通人能看懂的保险条文。
  (一)车损,第三者
  (二)丢车
  (三)撞车
  (四)索赔


  保险条款精解(一)-车损,第三者
  咱们先说说最主要的车损险和三责险。
  车损险和三责险是车辆保险的基本险,主要赔偿被保险车辆的损失以及由被保险车辆在使用中给第三者带来的损失!
  您大概觉得即使是自然灾害造成的车辆损失,保险公司也照赔不误!
  这话对了一半,大部分的自然灾害造成的损失都赔,惟独一样除外--------地震!


  案例1:如果您的车有幸在地震中被建筑物砸到的话,哈哈
  应对方法:等地震过后几天再申请赔偿
  出险陈述:大概由于地震造成墙体松动,终于在某一天倒下了(不要提及地震时出险)


  ★★案例2:如果您的爱车在一次急刹车中,车里的东东飞到了风挡上造成玻璃破裂。您该怎么说呢?
  你老老实实的对保险公司说:“我的纸巾盒飞起来打中了玻璃,“哗。。。。。。”(内功够高,呵呵)”
  你惨了。。。。。。那个理赔员会指着自己的嘴:“请看我的口型---------NO!!”
  正确的应对方法:小小的改变一下事实
  出险陈述:我的一个练过铁头功的朋友在刹车时撞碎了风挡,OK!
  记住,受车内物品的撞击所受损失,保险公司不赔的!!


  ★案例3:您如果在拖车时与别的车发生了碰撞时
  应对方法:忽略一些事实存在的东西
  出险陈述:别提你在拖带车辆或者被别人拖带,否则不管你有没有事故责任,保险公司一律不赔


  ★案例4:如果你在事故时,打破了自己的玻璃又没有上玻璃险时,你会向保险公司索赔吗?
  没上玻璃险找人家索赔能行吗??行,绝对行!
  玻璃险的全称是:玻璃单独破碎险,是指停车和使用时造成的玻璃损坏,而事故造成的玻璃损坏应由车损险来负责赔付
  如果您没上玻璃险,当您早上起来发现自己的汽车玻璃不知道被哪个混蛋打破了,怎么办呢??
  呵呵,老招法---------开车时急刹车造成的,又是脑袋惹的祸!(记得找一个身高差不多的朋友来当挡箭牌啊),如果是侧面的玻璃破了,就说侧滑时脑袋撞的好了,呵


  案例5:如果您的车在撞车时,打破了一个小灯,您该怎么办呢?
  找保险公司,他绝对不敢不赔您,那您赚了??没,您大概要赔了
  没听明白??告诉您,每辆车的全险大概在2500-5000之间(太好的车,您就自己算吧,我数学不好),如果您在一年的保险期内没有索赔,您将在下一年投保时获得10%的无赔款优待,这笔帐您自己算算,如果索赔数量太小,哎,就这样算了吧。。。。。。。。


  ★★★保险条款精解(二)-丢车
  谨以此文献给丢过车和有可能丢车的朋友!
  车辆在停放和使用的过程中难免会让人有烦心的事,其中,丢车是最倒霉的事了,不过,如果你按照我说的去做,您的损失会降到最低点。
  记得啊,一旦丢车,要做的第一件事情是什么?
  报警?
  错!车已经丢了,哪那么容易立刻找到啊,您也未免太高估中国JC的能力了,还是想想怎么减少损失吧!
  减少损失?哪那么容易啊,车都丢了,怎么减啊?
  首先记得先看看自己的保险单里有没有上车辆盗抢险。
  什么,没有?那你认倒霉吧,再买一辆吧
  如果你上了盗抢险,首先,我要恭喜你,你的损失可以降到最低了,不过,也要小心啊!这时你要做的是闭紧你的嘴,踏踏实实的看完我的帖子,否则你一定会后悔的!


  案例1:盗抢险中规定,被保险人丢失行驶证、购车原始发票、车辆购置附加费凭证每一项增加0.5%的绝对免赔。丢失车钥匙增加5%的绝对免赔。这些规定在保险单中用颜色最浅的字体印刷,不信,您可以拿出单子仔细看看,肯定在某个不显眼的角落里能发现这段话。
  所以不管你是否有一把备用钥匙曾经丢失过,或者是在您被开跑了的车里有一把钥匙,请您记住一定要忘记这件事,否则。。。。。。5%的损失您自己抗定了


  案例2:如果您的车在收费停车场或营业性修理厂中被盗,保险公司负责赔偿吗?
  答案是:不赔!!因为上述场所对车辆有保管的责任,在保管期间,因保管人保管不善造成车辆损毁、丢失的,保管人应承担责任。保险公司不负责赔偿。
  所以正确的方式是找停车场去索赔,所以,每次停车时记得收好停车费收据啊,虽然上面印着丢失不管,但根据我国合同法中关于格式合同的规定,这属于单方面推卸自己应负责任!你尽管放心大胆的告他好了,呵呵,给您一个好消息,已经有人打赢了这样的官司,所以根据案件推溯的原则,以后的案件审判可以依照这个案例来判决,哈哈!


  案例3:如果,停车场是您的朋友开的,或者您从侧面打听到这个停车场根本无力赔付您的爱车,您是否可以考虑改变一下丢车的地点呢?哈哈,我可什么都没说啊
  案例4:再有,如果您是一位老板,因为一些帐物上的问题和朋友闹翻,而您的朋友又是一位小人,他偷偷把您的车偷走了,您猜到会是他干的,您会找保险公司赔偿吗?
  告诉您,保险公司可不负责赔偿。因为条款规定:被保险人因与他人的民事、经济纠纷而致车辆被抢、被盗为责任免除。
  所以,您大可忘记您的经济纠纷,直接到公共安全专家局报案,记住,千万别说出您的怀疑对象,否则就会把经济问题扯进来了,以中国法院的工作效率,您大概半年之内得打车出门了!


  案例5:如果您刚买了一辆新车,上了全险,但没有来得及领牌照(现在的交管规定:验车后的15个工作日后方可领牌证),出险后保险公司负责赔偿吗?
  不负责赔偿。因为在出险时,保险车辆必须具备两个条件,一是保险车辆须有公共安全专家交通管理部门核发的行驶证或号牌,二是在规定期间内经公共安全专家交通管理部门检验合格。但一般经特别约定对go-vern-ment部门规定需先保险后检验核发号牌的新入户车辆可负责车损险和三责险。所以负责丢车赔偿的盗抢险并没有生效,自然,您也得不到赔偿。
  看来如果您不是仗着胆子改一下丢失的时间,新买的车就算送人了!我可又什么都没说啊
  案例6:如果您的车失而复得,保险公司如何处理赔款?
  被盗抢的保险车辆找回后,如果保险公司尚未赔款的,应将该车辆归还给您,但是全车被盗抢期间,车辆受到的损坏或车上零部件、附属设备丢失需要修复的合理费用,保险公司负责赔偿。如果保险公司已经赔偿,应将车辆归还您,同时收回相应赔款。若您不愿收回原车,则车辆的所有权益归保险公司。


  保险条款精解(三)-撞车
  谨以此文献给撞过车和有可能撞车的朋友!
  只要是撞车,保险公司全赔吗?当然不是
  你只要认真看看手里的保单赔偿免责条款就知道了,保险公司有一大堆不赔的东西呢,想把损失降到最低,还是来找我吧,哈哈!


  案例1:假设你是一个新手,刚借了一辆车(当然也没准是租的车),在路上练车的时候,把你弟弟给撞了,你知道这辆车有三责险,你会找保险公司索赔吗?
  答案:如果你去了,你就是神经病,保险公司会一脚把你踢出去,为什么??
  首先,你要知道什么是三责险,全称:第三者责任险。(第三者插足人家可不管,呵呵)


  那什么是第三者呢?
  第三者指除保险人与被保险人之外的,因保险车辆的意外事故致使保险车辆下的人员或财产遭受损害的在车下的受害人。通俗的讲第三者就是排除四种人:即保险人、被保险人、本车发生事故时的驾驶员及其家庭成员、被保险人的家庭成员。
  现在明白了,你作为当时的驾驶员,撞伤你的家人,保险公司是不赔的,好了,你知道该怎么办了!
  什么?还不知道?气死我了,换个驾驶员撞的不就完了嘛,真是的,害我什么都说出来了
  案例2:如果您有幸开车撞人了,而且全是您的责任,法院判您赔偿您包赔对方的经济损失、精神损失费、伤残损失费。。。。你该如何处理呢??
  还能怎么样,给钱就是了!错!
  你应该和对方家人商量,加大经济损失赔偿和伤残损失赔偿,尽量把精神赔偿降到最低,没有当然就更好了
  为什么?你问我为什么?这不是五马换六羊嘛
  老兄,你又错了,保险公司不是无条件地完全承担’被保险人依法应当支付的赔偿金额’,而是依照《道路交通事故处理办法》及保险合同的规定给予赔偿。而条款明确规定,因保险事故引起的任何有关精神损害赔偿为责任免除。所以无论法院判决被保险人是否应赔偿精神损失,保险公司均不负责赔偿。
  明白了??别的保险公司都替你赔,精神损失可不管,所以,宁可多给对方点钱,也别答应精神赔偿,总之,慷保险公司之慨呗,呵呵!


  案例3:如果你又有幸撞车了,这回不是您的责任,而对方又不想赔钱,您可以找保险公司索赔吗?
  答案:可以,不过您必须先向第三方索赔,才有可能获得保险公司的赔偿。如果您放弃了向第三方索赔的权利,而直接向保险公司索赔,保险公司不赔。因为您放弃了向第三方追偿的权利,同时也就放弃了向保险公司要求赔偿的权利。
  所以,切记,切记,一定要先找对方赔,最好是有法庭的强制执行未果的证明,然后您就可以理直气壮的找保险公司了,剩下的烂摊子尽管让它们收拾去吧,谁让它们每年收了您那么多的保险费呢



案例4:记得以前有个倒霉的司机在JC的指挥下,撞向了正在逃窜的罪犯,结果两车相撞,那叫一个惨啊,保险公司会赔他吗?
  当然不会啦,保险条款写的明明白白,驾驶员的故意行为不在赔偿之列,所以只能自己修车了:
  所以,如果您没有足够的经济能力,在当英雄之前要考虑一下噢!!


  保险条款精解(四)-索赔
  ★保险案例一不可不看,因为您以前可能没听说过。)
  坛中一知名DX的朋友丢失一爱车,已上全险,找保险公司索赔,未果,保险公司拒赔理由:到车管所查询,此车未年检。
  案例分析:保险公司所做所为,十分合理,于保险合同条文也有根据:保险只对合格车辆生效,对于未年检的车辆只能视为不合格车辆,就算您保养的再好也没用,结果只能是丢了白丢,保险也上了白上,顶多退回保险现金价值
  案例结论:您的爱车,千万要按时年检,切不可后延,否则,罚款事小,拒赔事大,此时即使发生交通事故造成第三者损失,也将由您自己承担,保险白买了
  案例解决办法:按时年检,即使是一天,也不要晚;
  如果真的发生不幸,也要记住千万不要立即报案,尽快花银子把验车手续补齐后再办理报案索赔手续!
  不好意思,刚才一阵头晕,我什么也没说吧?说了也是胡话


  ★保险案例二:
  与上相通,驾驶员年审未做的请注意了,您在驾驶中发生的一切问题,保险公司不负责赔偿,理由与上例相似,恕不赘述。


  ★保险案例三:
  这是一个经常被问到的问题:我的车刚买,还没有上牌照,保险是否生效
  解释:
  车辆在出险时,保险车辆必须具备两个条件,一是保险车辆须有公共安全专家交通管理部门核发的行驶证或号牌,二是在规定期间内经公共安全专家交通管理部门检验合格。
  但一般经特别约定对规定需先保险后检验核发号牌的新车辆可负责车损险和三责险
  所以,这时您的车丢了就算倒霉了,撞了人啥的还算凑合有保险公司给您顶着,现在清楚了吧!


  ★保险索赔证明材料原则因为这个问题有N人问起,所以在此做一解答
  保险索赔时分几种情况
  1,事故经交通队出面解决的
  由交通队出具处罚单或调解书,经法院判决的,用判决书即可。
  这些材料绝对好使,在保险公司肯定一路绿灯。放心索赔好了
  2,在小区内发生事故的
  重大事故:即车损严重的,还是要到交通队开证明,很麻烦
  一般剐蹭:到小区物业开证明,因为经常受怀疑,一般也很麻烦
  所以,最好报案时报在城市道路上,否则-----------累死你!
  3,在道路上发生小事故的,包括停车时的剐蹭
  (此类事故坛中DX发生的最多)
  此类需要证明的原则是:是否涉及第三方
  如涉及第三方赔付的,还是需要交通队证明。
  如事故双方自行了断的,可以在索赔时注明:事故第三方自修,然后按车损险中的自责索赔,保险公司要是让您到交通队开证明,您一定得咬住了别松口,就说没地儿开去,保险公司一般也不会太较真。您要答应去开证明,别怪我没提醒您,您就跑去吧,赔的钱不定够不够油钱呢


  4,最背的人
  如果被别的车撞到后,肇事车逃逸,无法查找
  情况严重的就比较麻烦,要通过交通队解决,可以由保险公司代为追偿。
  不严重的话,最好也是以自责来解决索赔问题,而且要在索赔时注意到车身是否粘有对方车油漆,以及撞的方向,一定得自圆其说,否则你惨了!

  最后提醒一下各位DX:报案时一定要在48小时内报案,否则有可能直接被拒赔!!切记,切记,不在48之内也要说成48啊!

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re:楼上的你的福特车才8个油,是哪款呢?我的...

楼上的你的福特车才8个油,是哪款呢?我的要近10个油呢
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re:女生们不用妄自菲薄了,下面这些事儿基本上...

女生们不用妄自菲薄了,下面这些事儿基本上都是男同学,而且还是理科男同学干出来的哦。

转贴  BG老中撞车史

名词解释:

BG: 美国一地名
老中: 中国到美国的留学生及其家属
撞车: 汽车车祸
史: 记录、历史 (真实的历史记录)

刚到美国的时候,最令人兴奋的事情莫过于买一辆汽车了。绝大多数的老中在中国的时候一直开烧面条的两轮车,现在开上烧汽油的四轮车速度还飞快当然兴奋了。不过,接踵而来的就是一系列的撞车事故。这些事故真实地发生在美国的一个大学城里。

A)老A 是很早就到美国的留学生,很早是对于我来说很早,人家85年就来了。老A对买车有自己的哲学:什么省油费油,什么德国日本,车越大越结实越舒服越好!我认识老A的时候大约在冬季。老A买了一辆八缸皮顶子的凯迪拉克,那个巨大呀真令人羡慕开起来和开船似的。一天早晨老A开着他的大凯迪车去机场接他老婆,拐弯的时候没小心把院子拐角儿的消防栓给挂了。老A车大只觉得有点不对劲但是没有什么特殊的感觉就直接去了机场。等下午回来一看整个康铺赖课斯厚厚的一层冰成了一个巨大的冰场。当天晚上老A到我宿舍:“阿牛,那个消防栓好像是我给撞断的,我那车后面的黄漆和消防栓上的一模一样!”

老A真牛,消防栓都敢撞!

B)B 妹妹是BG的大美女,一直没有固定的男朋友。那天上学看见她愁眉苦脸地在路边蹲着呈大便状,脑子一热我就去英雄救美。“牛哥,我又撞树了,警察要罚我款了。。。。。5555,怎么办呀?”我这时候才注意到旁边一个警察帅哥和一辆警车,人家帅哥警察正在报告总部:“licence plates: BG 12345, I can not believe that the same car, driving by the same girl, hit the same tree twice in one week, at the exact same time, hahahaha.”

我内心也狂笑,哈哈哈哈。

C)老C是数学系的我们住的近平时大家关系都挺好,突然接到消息说老C住院了。赶紧去看看吧:“老 C呀,怎么回事儿呀?”人家老C躺在病床上身上插了不少管子但是神智尚清楚:“我给人家送Pizza,好像还没有送完,我就到了这里了。” “啊?怎么回事儿呀?”大家都关心地问。”“我也不知道,好像我最后看到的是眼前有一棵大树,然后的事情就忘了。。。。。然后就看见你们了。”

同情呀!

D)周末的时候几辆车十几个人去临近城市里玩,吃完喝完玩完就开回学校。我车上的老大要撒尿就耽误了一会儿。回去的路上只见老D车停在道路中间,几个人在风雪里瑟瑟发抖。赶紧停下来:“怎么了?怎么了?”老D已经说不出话来了。小D说:“老D开着开着车想抽烟,点烟的那两秒钟功夫车就开到逆行道上了,对面车呼一下从左边过去,呼一下从右边过去,老D当时就吓得尿了裤子,赶紧靠边儿停下来然后就哆嗦就成了现在这个样子了。”

奶奶的,练车也不能这样练吧!

E)老E是陕西人,人很好就是眼神儿不好。赵本山走路的姿势绝对就是和老E学的。老E到美国后买了辆灰色的本田雅阁。上课的时候就停在学生停车场。一天老E从图书馆出来开车回家但是忘了停在哪里了。也没记得车牌号就一辆一辆的灰色车子试着开。正好有辆警车经过看见老E在鬼鬼祟祟地开车门还开了一辆又一辆。警车就悄悄地跟在老E后面看看老E是不是犯罪分子。良久,老E终于在昏暗中找到自己的车了,开车进门准备回家。这时候警车悄悄地停在老E的车后面一边观察一边向总部报告。老E打着了车看也没看就倒车,咣当一下子就撞在警车的门上了。那小警察一边呼叫总部一边从另外一个门爬出来用枪指着老E:“Freeze, Freeze!”人家老E只听梆的一声知道撞车了,赶紧从车里出来:“啥?啥?Freeze, 额不冷呀?啊,额不Freeze。”一看警察用枪比划着人家真的急了老E立刻改口:“额Freeze, 额马上就Freeze!额立刻就Freeze”

结果,老E被罚一年不许开车。

F)听说F撞车了车开到人家厨房里去了,大家欢欣鼓舞。因为F财迷自私还傲慢人缘极为不好于是就有人诅咒他开车撞车吃饭恶心考试不及格,果然,他应咒了。大家到F遇难的地方去看。那个被撞的房子在一个坡上。从马路到那个房子要左饶右绕绕过七八棵树才能撞到人家厨房,技术不好的还饶不过去,真不知道人家是怎么从马路上那么大一个坡再绕过那么多树然后撞到人家厨房的。

大家欢欣鼓舞以至于举杯相庆!

G)老G很神,是学计算机的。从来不吃菜,只吃猪肘子!买车学车都是自己干。有一天开车出去玩,开到人家PRIVATE DRIVE上玩倒车,把人家的小桥给压塌了。被人家的几条大狗给围着吼,一直到主人下班回来才敢出来。老G人和车愣在水里泡了三个多钟头。

H)老中H最牛属于超爱学习的那种人,天天对着镜子练习英文:F,F,F,Fu, Fu, Fu, Fuc, Fuc.....”老中H最羡慕名车,一天,他撞了这个城市里唯一的一辆法拉利!拦腰撞的!车毁人未亡!人家依然牛:“你看你们撞的是什么车呀?本田、丰田、尼桑,看我,我撞的是法拉利!
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